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    "content": "questions about our internal security. We are not here divided as a House between Jubilee or CORD or based on our ethnic configurations. It is not the tribe of the people who died that is in question. In any case, it could have been any tribe. That is why there is someone from Elgeyo-Marakwet who died. That is why there is someone from Kisii who died. The truth is that there is insecurity everywhere in this country. So, when we debate this issue, we must do it soberly. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am on record, and I stand by what I am saying, that the security managers of this country have led this country down. We can beat about the bush or go round and round, but in America, a small situation, including agreeing on a philosophy of how to address issues that are happening in Iraq, has led the Secretary of Defence to give way, so that someone else can be appointed. We are not saying that those who are managing security are illiterate or stupid. What we are just saying is that their best may not be the best for this country. We have told the President privately and we are telling him publicly, that Kenyans through us - the people who were elected by the people – are saying that the security managers of this country must either pull up their socks or make way if they are unable to do their job. They must be held to account. Let us not lie to ourselves. When tribalism crept into this country and there were tribal clashes as from 1992, at first, it was about a neighbour against another neighbour. As we progressed – by 2007 – it had reached a stage where it became volatile and almost brought this country to its knees. What we are beginning to witness in this country is violence now taking a religious dimension; where someone is asked whether they know how to pray, so that they can be let go or asked about their religion. Both sides of this House must condemn any violence that is taking place in this country, even if it is done by people who are perceived to come from our religion. If a church becomes a place where you are storing arms, it ceases to be a church and becomes a scene of crime. If a mosque becomes a place where people are trained to bring about violence, it ceases to be a mosque. It becomes an amoury or a place for training criminals. It pains me that we have leaders in this country holding senior offices; when guns are found in churches or mosques, they say nothing. They wait until those people are arrested, then they start talking about freedom of expression or freedom of religion. If we do not do something and support the Government, this religious violence is going to blow up and we will be like Nigeria. I want to ask my friends whether they believe in God. I have said and I am on record that the kind of god that depends on a wretched, useless and emaciated person in the desert of Somalia to fight for him is not a god worth worshipping. Do not tell us that they are fighting on behalf god. Which kind of god is that who depends on a person who is emaciated and eats only one meal in a week? We must condemn whatever is taking place in this country and we must take responsibility as leaders, to ensure that we weed out every form of insecurity. I used to be a Sunday school teacher. If a Sunday school teacher or a madrasa teacher turns out to be a person training people on violence, this country has a responsibility to arrest them, close those places and bring people to account. I support. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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