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    "speaker_name": "November 26, 2014 SENATE DEBATES 47 Sen. G.G. Kariuki",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The original Motion was okay, but I also do not have a quarrel with the amendment. In the main debate on the Motion, we talked about people who are supposed to be thrown out of the system because we claimed they are not doing the right job. We must know that if Kimaiyo, the Inspector-General or ole Lenku had the opportunity to explain themselves the way we do here, you would also find that they have major problems and that is why they cannot move. This is something we need to think about very critically. You cannot expect the two gentlemen to be in a situation where they do not care and, therefore, need to go. That will not be an answer. We need to change our political culture as far as security is concerned. We have a problem in the Northern Province. This has to be dealt with mercilessly. This should not be through attacking people with guns, but to do a very serious organizational structure that will improve the affairs of security in this part of the world. That is not a simple thing. Someone cannot just come and claim that he will create peace in those areas. You have to move the military personnel, have a base somewhere like Mandera, South Horr and another near the Elemi Triangle to make sure that whatever happens is visible. You have to keep watch towers all over the place so that you see through all the facilities when we are being infiltrated. The way things are now, we cannot stop people from Somalia from coming into Kenya. This is very difficult. In fact, when a decision was taken to take our army to Somalia, I remember that it is only me who stood up to say that we had done something without being prepared and we should be aware that we have opened a new chapter. This is a chapter that will be handled internationally. When these are international affairs, it is not fair that we sit here and start accusing one another. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, owing to limited time, I want to say this. If we could have this House in camera and bring all the people involved in matters of security so that they come here and speak freely, I think we would get answers. However, answers cannot come from the National Security Council where all the bosses are. This can only be done somewhere where politicians will baptize these people and I know they would say something. This is very critical. We should not assume that there are people from certain tribes and cultures. Which tribe does not have criminals in this country? I just want to be told. The fact is that some of the criminal gangs have a wider area of operation than others. I thank you very much for allowing me to say those words."
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