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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Pukose",
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        "legal_name": "Robert Pukose",
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    "content": "Hon. Deputy Speaker, to me if we are going to be able to censure him then the level of contempt must be proved, which he failed to prove. Secondly, when you are in charge, to control such a big House is also challenging because you must keep hon. Members attentive to the Motion that is before the House. You must be able to draw the attention of hon. Members and maybe whatever you will bring up is what hon. Muturi has been trying to use; to enlighten hon. Members and also bring liveliness to the debate and that does not constitute being abusive or contemptuous. For instance, at times when you do medical courses, they are very challenging and people reach a level where they are not paying attention. One time one of my professors asked a question and there were two girls answering the question. He said: “Not you, the beautiful one.” It did not mean that the other girl was not beautiful. Hon. Muturi may be referring to hon. Members by saying: “You hon. Member, this is not Mathare; this is not Kibra; this is not Endebess.” I do not think it was in bad light. Everybody has his level of weakness. Nobody is perfect, but hon. (Dr.) Musimba, the level at which we can say hon. Speaker is contemptuous is very high. That is the level we want. That is the level, with your level of education, we expected you to present to this House. The Speaker’s position is supposed to be the position of this House. For us, as a House, we must ask ourselves: Do we want to be respected outside as Parliament? Do we want this House to be respected? Do we want that when hon. Muturi goes out there he is seen as the symbol of this House? If the answer is yes, we should defeat this Motion. With those few remarks, I oppose this Motion."
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