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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "No, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Mbuvi wears something else. With the benefit of this law, the people of Taita Taveta County will benefit because the income derived from this natural stone would make it one of the richest counties in this Republic. These people have been confined to the periphery and living on top of hills because of marginalization by landlords who own acres and acres of land. This is a very important Bill because counties will benefit. I have told Sen. (Dr.) Zani that the part where there is a provision for a sharing agreement where natural resources are concerned should be re-looked at. For example, if coal in Kitui County crosses into Makueni County, the agreement as to how they will share the benefits should be looked at so that if there is a dispute between the two counties, there must be a good dispute resolution mechanism. The issue that you saw people quarreling about of whether or not a certain national project is in one county or the other will be removed. The question of boundaries will no longer be an issue because we will then have a mechanism for both counties to benefit from this Bill. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am concerned and I want Sen. (Dr.) Zani to consider the question of the Natural Resource Benefit Sharing Authority (NRBSA). We have proposed in this Bill that the persons who will sit in this NRBSA, part of them, will be persons who have 10 years’ experience in any of the fields. People who are 35 years old and are considered youth will most likely not have 10 years’ experience that is contemplated under the law. I would propose that we make an amendment because Section 9(b) will exclude the youth. Sen. Kanainza would not qualify under 9(b) because she will not have reached the thresholds that are contemplated here. I propose that we make that amendment so that we give an opportunity to the youth of this country to sit on this Board. Similarly, on Section 7, I am not sure whether we will have a system of vetting the three persons that appear as representing communities. I propose that we consider that the person who will sit as Chairperson be vetted in some form, even if the matter has to come to the Senate in the same way the other Chairpersons who are sitting in any of these Committees are vetted. Under Section 41, it is proposed that:- “The Cabinet Secretary responsible for matters relating to natural resources may make regulations for the carrying out of the provisions of this Act. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, unless you put a clause that this will be submitted to the Senate like we have done in all the Bills affecting counties, the idea of them having this Bill coming from us will be defeated. This is because the CS will then transmit it to the National Assembly. We want to tie this to the Inter-governmental Relations Act, the Urban and Cities Act, the County Governments Act and the Regulations Act. The Act is clear that those regulations must come to the Senate for approval. I propose an amendment to that extent so that we have some role to play. Similarly, with regard to the proposed Section 36 tied with Section 37, I suggest that the reports that are going to be submitted by the NRBSA contemplated and the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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