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    "speaker_name": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to join Sen. Murungi and the Senate Minority Leader and say two things. One, there was an attempt to make recommendations to this House on this matter. However, it was done clandestinely because it came through leaflets, or pamphlets or some fliers which were distributed in a Kamukunji . The issues of procedure were raised, but they were withdrawn. Then all of a sudden, those fliers and pamphlets ended up becoming law. So, this matter is so grave that without the involvement of the Senate, there is no way you can talk about ceilings or capping revenue or allocations for county assemblies. Secondly, Mr. Speaker, Sir, the gentlemen – I do not know whether there is a lady; I know there are several – but the ladies and gentlemen that you see in the Speaker’s Gallery have been reduced to beggars and people who have to go kneel before the county executive so that they can do their oversight. Let me just give one example - as I conclude making my remarks - of Tharaka-Nithi, which I represent. When you remove the overheads like salaries, they are left with Kshs20 million to do oversight and committee work. How on earth can a county assembly having 10 or more committees exercise oversight over a Governor using Kshs20 million? Mr. Speaker, Sir, this matter is so grave and I want to join those who have said that we do not want to be given some “Thursdays” which is unknown---"
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