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    "content": "immaterial that one hon. Member – is it for Butere or other constituency near there - claims to understand. It is not enough. Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo knows exactly what it is that he is proposing here and that is why it would have been necessary that--- That is why I said that I approve this. I said that this matter goes before the Committee so that there is a sitting and then you come and explain that when you say over Kshs5 billion and the over Kshs2 billion, then we know what it is. When you say “from the State Department or National Treasury and State Planning” and you want to do it in plenary without the benefit of a Committee engagement, this is not the way. This is not budgeting, surely. It is not budgeting. This will be some voodoo practice which I will not allow to happen in the plenary of this House. Give this to hon. (Eng.) Gumbo. Let him explain."
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