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    "content": "They are not among the poor. So, unless you rise and specify, in this regulatory statute, the harambees where you require strict supervision, you can end up punishing the small person because of the misdeeds of the big person. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, today, governors are bragging all over the country that they will be unbeatable in 2017 because they are building a war chest. So, when I see that the Judiciary is not moving quickly to determine the issue of summoning them to come and answer to questions of transparency and accountability, how then are we going to save the billions that we have in the hands of people who are not willing to be asked even one question? I was in a hotel in Kisumu in the company of Sen. Wako and we met a governor – not from Nyanza, but from outside Nyanza. He told us; “If you people of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) are here, writing that report, the only way I could have come to you is if you carried the HANSARD and the entire staff of the Committee to my county. I will give you lunch; I will make you a cup of tea and you will ask me the questions you want to ask me.” This is impunity. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the same people who upon realizing funds they collect from the public in the name of helping the so-called deserving group, they constitute themselves into a steering committee. They have made it a culture; we have certain people who are perpetually members of funeral steering committees in Mombasa, Nairobi and Eldoret. The moment somebody dies, the chairman of the steering committee will be identified. You will discover that last week it was the same guy; the other month The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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