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    "id": 517342,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ng’ongo",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Speaker, for allowing me to also say one or two things regarding the point of order raised by hon. Duale. First, the issue of public hearing should be very easy. I would request you to communicate with your colleague in the Senate so that the House originating a Bill should be the one tasked with the responsibility of conducting public hearings. That way, when we see a Bill originating from the Senate, we do not subject it to public hearing again. In the same manner, if a Bill originates from the National Assembly, it does not make sense for the Senate to conduct public hearing again. However, the issue of money Bills is very clear. The Constitution is not ambiguous on what a money Bill is about. A money Bill is required by the Constitution to only originate from the National Assembly. It does not mean that it cannot go to the Senate. It talks about originating the money Bill. Money Bills should originate from the National Assembly. A money Bill is defined in Article 114(3) as follows: “(3) In this Constitution, a “money Bill” means a Bill, other than a Bill specified in Article 218, that contains provisions dealing with— (a) taxes; (b) the imposition of charges on a public fund or the variation or repeal of any of those charges; (c) the appropriation, receipt, custody, investment or issue of public money; (d) the raising or guaranteeing of any loan or its repayment; or (e) matters incidental to any of those matters.” So, what amounts to a money Bill is very clear and is spelt out in the Constitution. The communication between the two Speakers should be that if there is a necessity for such a Bill then it should originate from the National Assembly. However, it can still find its way to the Senate if it touches on matters that affect the counties. Thank you."
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