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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Prof.) Nyikal",
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    "content": "these ranks together and in the long run have one command. There is no administrative structure where parallel commands work. So, I am happy that he realises that. On the issue of corruption, I do not think it is just a matter of travelling to many countries to see how corruption is dealt with. Hon. Cheptumo said that he is a man of integrity, he goes to church and, maybe, he is on the right track; corruption in this country will not be won by police circles, with guns or by taking people to jail. We have to look at our hearts. It will have to be won in our hearts; the hearts of Kenyans. I do not think it is merely the condition of the police. More needs to be done, just like by all other Kenyans, in order for us to fight corruption. With those few remarks, I support and hope that this gentleman will deliver the service we want, including correcting traffic lights. These days I do not know whether to obey traffic lights or the police."
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