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    "content": "interviewed them that they must locate as precedence those exceptional circumstances that will warrant the dissolution of any county. As the Chairperson has indicated, this is an adverse drastic step that must never be part of the modus operandi in us abolishing or dissolving elected governments and counties. I hope that this Committee will put a high threshold for the dissolution of counties across the country. As I speak now, there is another county where people have started collection of signatures. I spoke to the governor of that county to find out whether it is true or not. When we torpedoed several impeachments of governors, including a deputy governor, counties have at least cooled down on that impeachment. I hope this commission will set a certain threshold, but the Senate still reserves the final say as to whether to dissolve Makueni County or not. Therefore, when the report comes back to us, it will be for us to make that determination. We had a lot of debate about “residence” and “domicile”. That is what we were asking ourselves and tried to address. I join my colleague, Sen. Murkomen, in suggesting that we need to set criteria in this country of what constitutes residence. For example, I have lived in Nairobi for the last 26 years and yet the people of Mombasa were courteous enough to accord me the position of Senator for Mombasa County. Many of us here live in Nairobi for one reason or another. We have homes, business and transact our professional lives here. Therefore, it would be important to set up that criterion which will allow us in determining the threshold for residency. Our Committee was totally satisfied that within the evidence provided and the interrogation we had of the two nominees who were supposed to hail from Makueni County, we were satisfied that what they told us constituted the threshold for residence, at least, for purposes of this particular nomination. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is also clear that in the approval process, these commission members bring in different capacities and competences. It was great to see professors in the field of anthropology, distinguished lawyers like the chairperson, Mr. Taib Ali Taib, people who have served in distinguished positions like Alice Nderitu who was a commissioner in the National Cohesion and Integration Commission who is actually helping to resolve conflicts in Nigeria and other parts of Africa. This is a distinguished group of persons which this Senate must approve so that the process can move forward. The adverse effect of not approving this is to drag Makueni County backwards and continue to create anxiety. I commend the Committee for its diligence. This work was undertaken within a span of two days. The interviews were held and the report was concluded. We put our thoughts into the report and ultimately, we all by consensus adopted this report. As the Chairperson said, these men and women are serving on a temporary commission. Therefore, we needed to make it clear to them that as much as the President provided for a period of six months, it would be important for them to expedite this process so that within two or three months, the process is concluded. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wish to second my Chairperson. As most of you will acknowledge that the report has just been circulated, given your intellect, wisdom and experience, most of you have scanned through this report and sufficiently have picked some of the substantive issues. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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