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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogari",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Simon Ogari Arama",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, my voice is also low. I think I have to bend and get closer. It is true that I am a professional in this area. I am a Quantity surveyor of many years and prior to the emergence of the procurement profession; Quantity Survey has been and still is the professional in the major sector of procurement, especially in the infrastructure sector. Unfortunately, I am one of those who yesterday proposed about the 30 minutes and it has turned out to work against me and other hon. Members who are here. So, I will be very brief because my colleagues have prosecuted quite a number of issues on this Bill. From the beginning, I want to support this Bill. However, I know there will be a lot of amendments to come. Having gone through the whole Bill, I will go straight to the technical issues that I can point out. As much as possible, I will try to avoid what my colleagues have canvassed. The first one is to generally say that this Bill does not make the difference between goods, services and processes. That is because the procurement of a building or a construction is not the same thing as procuring pens and pencils. This is a process which takes a very long time. As we go on, during the Committee Stage, we will propose amendments to this Bill. About the issue of services, we are talking about professional services. Even within professional services, we should clarify and differentiate between the regulated professional services and other services. That is because even cleaning is a professional service. We have professional cleaners, but we are not going to equate that with the procurement of legal services from lawyers who are regulated by their statutes. I know there is an attempt to try and cure that in Part X but I think it is not complete. We will have to look at that and see what can be done better. The other issue is that the profession of procurement is quite young and it is our business as a House and as leaders to develop---"
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