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    "id": 525338,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) was very clever when they proposed this formula because they knew that when we go to the meeting, any attempt to change the formula, even by 1 per cent, would affect counties. In the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget, we attempted to do permutation. We increased basic share to 30 per cent. This changed the formula in such a way that counties would be discriminated against. We picked population and attempted to also change it by either increasing or reducing and that changed the allocations in such a manner that counties like Mombasa complained. Therefore, Senators, I want to tell you that we have done this inside out. This formula, the way it is and in the allocations, is the best remedy you can have for now. What we need to do is to suggest methods of how we can deal with this issue in more detail. I say so because if you, Senators, attempt to change the population formula, will you change the numbers? Those numbers exist in the books of this country. People have complained about population census. Our best bet as Senators is to say, instead of having the population census that was done before, if you have an issue with it, we recommend that the next time we have a formula like this, we have the correct population census. How was poverty index arrived at? If you were to change the formula today and increase it to 20 per cent, if we agreed about, for example, moving it from 20 per cent to 18 per cent, one of the beneficiaries of the movement from 20 per cent to 18 per cent is Mombasa County because they are being considered on personal emolument. If you disagree with the poverty index either to increase or reduce it, you will have to reduce the personal emoluments factor which Sen. Hassan is talking about. If Mombasa County has a problem with wages, because it has employed as many staffs as possible, does that mean that it is the cleanest? Does that mean that it is the most efficient in terms of work? The CRA has a mandate to tell us that as we cushion counties on their wage bill, we must also demand to see the services equivalent so that then when we are discussing this issue as the Senate, we do not personalise it to counties because it is possible that counties have employed ghost workers. Nairobi County is famous for it. Even though The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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