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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, first of all, let me declare my interest. I am, indeed, acting as counsel and a very competent one on this matter that is being referred to. This is a matter that is being referred to because when the Senate Majority Leader tabled the documents which are supposed to have pleadings, he did not tell us who the parties are and what the case number is. He just tabled some papers and did not put on record what he is talking about. Therefore, it is a bit unfortunate. Secondly, the decision as to whether this matter is sub judice or not, will rest on you and not some vote of the House. That is considerable authority, power and trust that are vested in you. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have to address this issue not on the basis of what we are saying, but on the basis of what the Standing Orders say and on the basis of what the Senate Majority Leader has put before you. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I refer you to Standing Order No. 92(4) which places responsibility on the Senator who is making the allegation. It is not on all of us, what we are saying is of no value. Standing Order No. 92(4) says:- “A Senator alleging that a matter is sub judice shall provide evidence to show that paragraphs (2) and (3) are applicable.” Therefore, the onus is on the Senator making the allegations. Mr. Speaker, Sir, he has failed in fulfilling the requirements of the Standing Orders. For example, the ruling which was made by Speaker Marende which has been cited and tabled before you, and at that time the issue of sub judice was being raised by the Minister for Justice, not an ordinary Member, he was somebody who had a direct responsibility. Having said all that he had to say, the Speaker was not satisfied that he had fulfilled the requirements of the Standing Orders. He said this on page 5:- “The Chamber Summons attached to the documents presented by Mutula Kilonzo is blank in the space provided for indicating the date on which all parties concerned should attend hearing for the matter. No hearing notice or other evidence has been provided.” Mr. Speaker, Sir, the fact that we are being told that this matter is coming on a certain date is based on what is being alleged on the Floor of the House. There is no evidence being provided to the House and that onus is on him. But more important --- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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