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    "content": "in that Ministry? We want to leave those experts without any work to do so that they come here as we create a Board to bring other experts who will again be sent to the Ministry to duplicate the same work. At the end of the day, you will find that we have a cartel because the Board wants a “cut” on what will be approved. Those who work at the Ministry also ask for a “cut” with regard of what is being procured. Therefore, at the end of the day, we have about 100 people online waiting for a “cut” and the money is stolen. Until thieves are jailed in this country, there is no way people will stop stealing. Let us just have three stealing enough, each Kshs10 million than have 100 people who will disappear with Kshs100 million at one go. We do not need advisers to go and advise the Ministry. If the Cabinet Secretary has no advisers, then the Ministry should be disbanded. Kenyans do not want to have a shell-like Ministry which cannot operate. The same Board is being given powers to facilitate the development and establishment of fertiliser manufacturing factories in Kenya. This is on record. This country has lost billions. During Moi’s and Kibaki’s administrations, it was said that a fertiliser factory would be set up in this country. We know that debate took place in the Ninth Parliament regarding billions of shillings that were paid to those who were to set up the factories. At the end of the day, there was absolutely no factory set up. When you ask those who were in charge, they will tell you that this was to be set up in Thika or even Kitengela. These people had even hired a helicopter to survey the area where the factory would be put up. It is not right to say that this Board will facilitate development of a fertiliser manufacturing factory. That is not the work of the Board. That is the work of the Minister for Agriculture and the Ministry of Devolution and Planning. They should source and encourage investors to come and invest in this country. How do you appoint a Board that sits at the twelfth floor of one of the buildings here to share the little money that is available and also bring investors in this country? That is a big joke. Clause (c) talks about encouraging and empowering Kenyans to invest and to establish local fertiliser production. Here, there is great contradiction. The Board is investing and looking for investors and at the same time, turning to Kenyans to advise them on what to invest in. If there is any advice to be given, we want the Ministry to come and tell us that the Government of Kenya has approved a fertiliser factory to be set up in this country and that it is focusing on having either two or five of them so that applicants can apply. After the applications have been made, assessments should be done and licences given to set up factories. Why should we have a Board that sits somewhere to have lunch, some roasted meat, wine and beer and then come out to decide on what to share after which they look for investors and sit somewhere and encourage Kenyans to invest? Part (d) says “manage the importation and distribution of fertilisers”. I think this is a laughable clause in this Bill. The board to supervise the importation of fertiliser in this country--- My goodness, these are the same people who were in the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and asked for “kuku”. They did not even ask for tyres for their cars but they asked for “kuku”. A whole chairman of IEBC gets into a plane to go to the United Kingdom (UK) to be given £30,000. Now these are the people who are going to be tasked with the importation of fertilisers. Those who are The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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