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    "content": "catches one block of the forest, it does not spread to the next block. In Kenya, I do not know why the officials of Kenya Forests Service draw a salary at all. Mr. Speaker, Sir, still on that particular Clause 29(2) and also (d) we are told that, “there will be two representatives of farmers or pastoralists within the county who will be appointed by the Governor.” This is important because, for example, like in Kakamega and many other forests, we have the shamba system. Farmers go to the forest, plant crops and, in the process, they take care of seedlings and young trees which are growing up. If you do not put these farmers there, this Board will not understand why farmers access the forest. In the case of pastoralists, they will understand why Maasais, for example, would want to access the forest so that their cattle can graze. In Kakamega, the only problem we have with the Kenya Forests Service (KFS) staff is that sometimes they deny our cattle from grazing in the forest. In fact---"
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