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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kembi-Gitura",
    "speaker_title": "The Deputy Speaker",
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        "legal_name": "James Kembi Gitura",
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    "content": " Thank you, Sen. Orengo. First of all, I want to assure you that as far as I am concerned and as the Senate Majority Leader has said, I am satisfied that you have raised the point in good faith and in my mind, I have no doubt at all. In my ruling, what I said, and I think again I would stand by it, is that Article 132 (1) (c) is clear that the Report in an Address to the Nation on all the measures taken and progress achieved was dealt with last Thursday. On part (2), publishing the gazette, the details, the measures and the progress under paragraphs (1) and (2), it does not set out the timelines. If it wanted to be contemporaneous, it would be clear in its terms. If you look at part (3) which nobody has raised, it states “submit a report for debate to the National Assembly”. You would be arguing that you are sure the report has been given to the National Assembly and not to Parliament for debate, again you would be precluded from dealing with part (1). The point I am trying to make is that (i), (ii) and (iii) could be mutually exclusive in the sense that none of them holds the other to ransom; that we cannot, therefore, continue to deal with the issues to the exclusion of the other. I believe that is why last year that issue was not raised because it is quite clear to me that parts (i), (ii) and (iii) are exclusive of each other. Part (iii) has to do with the National Assembly and not with us, but it cannot hold us to ransom; you cannot say that until you are sure the President has submitted this Report to the National Assembly, we therefore cannot proceed under part (ii). That is the position I hold and that would be my ruling on this issue. That would be the direction I would give on this issue. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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