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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "I will arrange them together. It shows how the land moved to an Indian family to my father, to myself, to my mother and, finally, to everybody. I do not know what the offence is that the Malvani family on several occasions has been alleged to have sent a chopper to pick me from Nairobi to Jinja. This report was made in 2012. Up to now, I have not been asked to make a Statement on this. The truth of the matter is, I have never travelled between Jinja and Nairobi on a chopper at all or been in contact with this family on any other basis other than knowing them as being an old Kisumu family. But my accusers can get the manifest and see whether there is anytime I travelled between Nairobi and Jinja and back on a chopper. This is a blatant lie. If it was true, anyway, what is wrong with being picked by a friend in a chopper? There is another accusation here that there was a land deal in which I and Mr. Aladwa were paid some money. I can tell you that this is not true. I have never been called to make a statement in regard to this issue. In fact, when I was the Minister for Lands, there were many of such cases, that people would go to the police and say “we did this transaction and there is money which seemed to have been paid to you through a lawyer.” I used to tell the police all the time that they arrest that person who alleged that they have paid a bribe before talking to me. I can tell you that, Orengo, who has come to this House to move a Motion of no confidence on the Republic of Kenya, move a Motion of Censure of the Speaker of the National Assembly - I cannot belittle myself and engage in this kind of activity. This investigation started in October 2012, but up to now, I have not been called. What Sen. Billow was saying was the correct procedure. If the President gets information, I will not stand in the way of the President getting information; he can get information from intelligence agencies, not just Kenyans ones, but also from around the world. It is his duty to take that information to the appropriate agencies to see whether there were prosecutable cases or not. Otherwise, this is a big fraud on the people of Kenya, trying to tell people that there are people who have committed high crimes of fraud and so on, yet there is nothing. Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, this is a hollow Report and it was supposed to serve only political purposes. For us to deal with this animal called corruption, extraordinary measures must be taken, including by the President. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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