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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, maybe it is good to quote the former President Kibaki, when at one time the Government was doing a lot of work in terms of infrastructure, some people were talking carelessly and pushing the Government to a corner. So at one time, the former President said if everybody is seeing the projects going on, who is doing it if not the Government. It is also good to ask the same question now; are public funds being stolen in our country? Each and every person is denying any wrong doing. So, the question is: If the money is being stolen and it is not you, is the money stealing itself? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is also the other aspect where people are defending others by saying that so-and-so is not supposed to be on the list because they are working hard. We are missing the point completely. We are not saying they are not working hard. In fact, that is what we want of them but you do not put your fingers in the till in the process of working hard. Others are saying that they know the person and he has not stolen. How do you know and yet you are not in that institution where he has been accused? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is a good idea for us to give the President a chance. Let him do what he is doing. He should also know that we do not want to witchhunt. The names are too many. Much as the whole thing has gone into our fabric and it can come out, it is also good to be clear. When you see the same names, the same crimes, the same positions and the same things which we were told five or ten years ago, then it is about time that the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) did something if they are serious. I call upon the President to do what he is doing. We are fully behind him. However, he has to understand that to overhaul the chemistry of how we do things in our country is not a simple matter. With those few words, I beg to support."
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