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    "id": 534282,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Langat",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 384,
        "legal_name": "Benjamin Kipkirui Langat",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move:- THAT, Clause 25 of the Bill be amended— (a) in subclause (1) by — (i) inserting a new paragraph immediately after paragraph (g)— ―(ga) the Senior Deputy Auditor General who shall be the secretary to the Board and an ex-officio member‖; (ii) deleting paragraphs (e) and (g); (b) in subclause (2) by deleting the expression ―subsection (2)(c) to (g)‖ and substituting therefor the expression ―subsection (1)(c) to (g)‖; (c) by deleting subclause (3) and substituting therefor the following new sub- clause— ―(3) The members under subsection (1) shall appoint a chairperson from amongst themselves‖. First of all, I want to inform the House that this is an advisory body. The Auditor- General can take or not take the advice. That was the principle behind leaving the Auditor-General out of the Board. At the end of the day, he is the overall person to make that decision. The Constitution gives him the power to appoint. We have already given him power to appoint his staff. The Audit Advisory Board will competitively recruit staff and the Auditor- General will appoint the staff. So, the reason was that we should leave the Auditor- General to receive advice which he may take or not take. It is upon the House to decide. If you want him to sit there as the Chairman, then I do not know why we should have that body in the first place. It is a waste of time. If we say the Auditor-General should sit there and become the Chairman then it ceases to be an advisory board because he will be the one advising himself. We could even leave him to sit there alone. Anyway, the purpose of my amendment is to put the Senior Deputy Auditor- General as an ex-officio member who will be the secretary to the Board. The other point is that we wanted to delete the inclusion of a nominee of the Institute of Internal Auditors of Kenya and the Chairperson of the Public Sector Accounting Standards Board as members. It is sufficient to have the Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Kenya (ICPAK) which is all-encompassing. It is an external auditor‘s job. However, I informed you that the amendments by hon. Gumbo which we passed---"
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