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"content": "Ndung‘u Report was laid before the before this House, and a specific resolution that those adversely mentioned be investigated first was passed. Secondly, he admits that he applied for land. If he was just given land, like some of my friends who told me that they just found themselves with pieces of land, that would have been something else. He applied for land that he knew was forest land. This land was gazetted. It has been gazetted since 1960s, before I was born. He could not have said that he did not know that this was forest land. Since he found himself with a piece of land, it is very difficult to convince Members of this House that he was too lucky a Kenyan; that he just found himself with pieces of land in the Mau Forest. First of all, let us deal with this nominee in the spirit in which we have decided in the last two weeks, that we be serious about integrity and Chapter Six of the Constitution on leadership and integrity. In terms of his credibility, this nominee does not qualify even if he has all the schooling that we have seen. This is a person who has been in all banks. We asked him a simple question and you will find it on page 12. We asked him whether he could demonstrate that he had done anything for the public. His response was that because he has been on boards of schools and boards of banks, then he knows something about the public. One needs to show that he understands. The two nominees are going to represent not professional groups, but Kenyans. We needed him to say whether he had dealt with the public enough to know what he is qualified for. The last one is about the lady that we are speaking about. With regard to regional balance, do not think about Luos and Kikuyus. Think about Kisiis, Kambas, the people of north eastern and Suba, where I come from. This assumption that because there is a name starting with the letter ‗O‘ then Luos are there, and because Luos and Kikuyus are there, all the tribes represented should not exist. Let us think about those other people who make up the 42 tribes. This lady has been nominated to the JSC. She is going to employ the Chief Justice and has shown so much partiality and political persuasion. If I was appointed to the JSC, I am sure Members would say that I am so ―Raila‖ that I cannot do the job. I am partisan. If I am partisan, then I should do things which relate to my party. If you are going to talk about the JSC, there are so many Kenyans out there who have never gone into politics, never supported any party and can still do the right thing. Can the President give us another name? There are so many names. This is not a problem. We can return the names. Can the President give us another name, even if it is of a Kikuyu or a Kalenjin? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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