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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Kibunguchy",
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        "legal_name": "Enoch Wamalwa Kibunguchy",
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    "content": "Thank you very much, hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Before I go into any substantive comment on the Bill, I will just want to make two observations. One, this Bill is going to turn Kenya into an open and transparent society. A lot of things have been done in an opaque manner. The second comment I would like to make is, there is a popular saying that: “It is only a fool who does things the same way and expects different results.” For a long time this country has done things the same way and we have always thought that we would get different results. Thankfully, the new Constitution has changed all that. However, the thinking of the administrators and many of the people who are in positions of making decisions has not changed as much as the Constitution has. So, my view is: Once we pass this Bill which I think we are going to do with some amendments is that all the administrators, all the people in positions, all the people that honourable Members have been talking about, the people in the Pensions Department, the people in the Lands Department, the people issuing identity cards and the people doing all that, will need to go back and have thorough retraining so that they can be able to have that paradigm shift in terms of the thinking that this Bill contemplates. Let me just touch on two other areas. One is Section V of this Bill which talks about two important issues that we sometimes tend to forget or neglect. One of them is the issue of giving notice before anything is done and a decision is made. Because of this I will highlight one incident that has happened in my constituency of late. The County Government of Kakamega decided to expand some roads in my constituency. In the process, they brought down people’s structures like gates, trees that people had planted, toilets and other structures without giving them notice. This has been very painful. If you can imagine, it is not easy to nurture a tree until it is 10 or 15 years old and one hopes that they will be able to cut down that tree and get some money to educate their children then, you find that these trees are brought down overnight without notice. That is an issue that The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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