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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Cheboi",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Kipkemboi Cheboi",
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    "content": "That is right. I have a problem. It has been long since I was in the National Youth Service (NYS). Hon. Chae said that the House should consider having the leadership of committees such as the PAC coming from one parliamentary party. As she left the Powers and Privileges Committee, she said that Members who had made unsubstantiated claims against each other should be discharged from the PAC. As I read the remaining appearances, I want to note that this has never happened in the Parliaments that I have known. When hon. Kaparo was the Speaker, he had trouble with Members making allegations against outsiders who could not come here to protect themselves. It is a new problem that Members can throw allegations against each other without substantiation. That is a very new one. It has never happened before. I was not in the Tenth Parliament, but I used to watch its proceedings. In the Tenth Parliament, there was the benefit of public television viewing. I never heard of allegations by Members against each other. It is new here. When hon. Mwadime came before the Powers and Privileges Committee, he said that it would be difficult for the Members of the PAC to work together again after the accusations. Now we are at almost the 10th Member who appeared before us. When hon. Joseph Manje, who, unfortunately for most of the time when allegations and counter allegations were being made was unwell, and I am sure Members remember that he even had to be taken to India for further treatment, came before the Powers and Privileges Committee, this is what he had to say: The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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