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    "content": "I was just interested in the bit where he said that the PAC cannot work together because its members have become very acrimonious. Hon. Manson Nyamweya also came before the Committee and this is what he had to say: “It is only prudent for the PAC to be dissolved and reconstituted leaving out the leadership, those who had failed to substantiate their claims of bribery against others and also those who had claims of bribery made against them.” We had difficulty with that because we did not want to delve too much into corruption, but we also took what he suggested. When the young hon. Silvance Osele came before us, this is what he had to say: “If the hon. Speaker received a letter from the PAC Chairperson on allegations of corruption within the Committee, that is an admission that PAC is unable to handle its affairs.” I have gone through all these because eventually when we indicate the decisions that we took as a Committee, it will be important for the Members to know where we are coming from. There was also the issue of the audio tape, which I have discussed very briefly. When Corporal Odako, the police officer and bodyguard to hon. Namwamba, came before the Committee, we had more than three hours with him. At the very end, and it is indicated at the last page, we considered the act of taping whoever he alleged to have taped highly unprofessional. This is because that is not part of what he is supposed to do as a security guard of a Member of Parliament. We also thought there were quite a lot of contradictions in his statement. For example, he said that hon. Ababu Namwamba and the rest of the members whom he taped were sitting 15 metres from where he was standing. He indicated that they were in a certain hut at Hotel Fairview. The members who were there, and many of the members of the Committee were at Fairview Hotel, could not at all agree that it was 15 metres between the entry to Hotel Fairview and the huts inside. In the estimation of members, it was probably more than 100 metres. He also said that hon. Namwamba left the meeting with the former Prime Minister and took a minute to where he was. However, that was not captured at all in the tape. Not The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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