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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": ".: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have read the proposed amendment. In my capacity as a Member of the Legal Affairs and Human Rights Commission, I would like to report to this House that we conducted a public hearing on this particular amendment. The public were very concerned about this amendment, particularly on whether or not this is a matter that concerns counties and whether it was in our jurisdiction. Secondly, the proposed fund that is created under amendment to Clause 3 which has provided for Clause 15(a)(2) will not violate the Constitution in respect of the fact that we do not have a mandate to create a fund as Senate. I want to agree with the last speaker on this. The Constitution proposed that we would do away with the provincial administration within five years of promulgation of this Constitution. What we are attempting to do now is, in fact, strengthening provincial administration which the public sought to have removed. I disagree with this amendment in its entirerity because I have read the memorandum and objects of this proposed amendment. It reads:- “The principle object of this Bill is to amend the National Government Coordination Act so as to recognize and provide for the role of village elders in execution of national Government and county government functions.” There is no role of county government under National Government Coordination Act No.1 of 2030. We have tabled here a report through the Committee of Legal Affairs and Human Rights, that there is, in fact, a duplication of functions between national Government under the National Government Coordination Act and the County Government Act. The duplication of roles all the way to the village has caused a petitioner to file a petition in the Senate, which report we have already submitted. That report says that, in fact, this Senate ought to amend the law so that we do not create a parallel system of governance and conflict at county level. There is no reason given in the Memorandum and Objects to suggest what mischief this Senate is trying to solve by having another cadre of people called village elders at the county level. The method of appointing these persons is also not specified. When we have a problem already at the national level, like during yesterday’s debate where were saying that the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) together with Treasury will consult in terms of how much money they are expending on the wage bill. Is it not a duplication to then add another cadre of village elders and then increase the wage bill? Would it not be in our own best interest to suggest that this particular cadre of persons, if necessary, should be under the county government, under the ward administrator and not the national Government because the assistant chief in my view is a very effective person. Now, by creating another lower level beyond a sub chief, I think we are taking this a little too far without an explanation to this Republic as to why we The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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