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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, sub clause 2 does not need a lot of explanation. It says; “notwithstanding the provisions of Clause 1, you can make an anonymous contribution.” My understanding is that when you are making an anonymous contribution, you can do it behind the scenes or give an envelope without announcing. This may be a very good intention. However, if you appear another time in a church service and say that you are not allowed to contribute and that you do not want your contribution to be announced, what do you do with a priest who may stand up and say that “we should not hide what the Lord has given to us?” Lo and behold! If it is Kshs200--- I do not think that this will help Members of Parliament to meet the intended targets for this clause. Similarly, sub clause 1 says; “you shall not actively participate,” I do not understand under what circumstances participation can be normal or in acting capacity. That distinction is very important. We should know whether you are participating directly or indirectly. My leader here can bear me witness, most of the time, we have gone to very many places where we have been told; “We do not want your money. This is not a harambee meeting. However, your contribution is welcome.” I have seen somebody who was prepared to give a contribution of Kshs5,000. The organizers said: “You are a whole Senator. This is not enough participation.” Here, we are now talking about active and directly and indirectly participation. Those words will not help. The effect is that you do not give at all in the circumstances covered by this The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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