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    "content": "documents and get them on oath, so that in violation of that order, then the person can be in contempt. That is the only way that we can enforce these things. Madam Temporary, Speaker, this Bill will not work if we do not have auditors in every county. Let us not just give funds. Let us insist that there must be an office and officer whom we can send to Narok County quickly to give us documents. On the question of funds, I have seen that the Bill proposes that the National Assembly will give the Auditor- General adequate funds. I have asked our Committee that we find a method of ring-fencing these funds because the word ‘adequate’ to me appears as if we leave it to the discretion of the Committee on Budget and Appropriations of the National Assembly, yet we know what they have done in the past when it comes to funds. They treat funds as if those funds belong to them, yet they belong to the Republic. Madam Temporary, Speaker, I disagree entirely and totally with the provision that seeks that when the Auditor-General wants to audit security organs, they must have a meeting to decide what constitutes national security. It is unacceptable. If public funds have been used to purchase items, the Auditor-General must be given access to those documents. The security and spending of this Republic is not greater than the reporting of the money. When Sen. Murungi was on the Floor yesterday, he said this on record, which I want to repeat so that then this is looked at; he said that the gentleman by the name of Mr.Mutea Iringo was dealing with security issues yet he cannot disclose that they withdrew Kshs2.8 billion, which is almost equivalent to the money that we are allocating to Taita-Taveta or many other counties. Why should Kshs2.8 billion withdrawn within a space of three days be a secret? It cannot be a secret. In fact, for us to know whether our military is able to defend students like in Garissa, we need to know how many tanks are available in the country. We need to know how many G3 rifles they have purchased. Even if that information is not accessed by the public, for crying out loud and for heaven sake, this information must be availed to the Auditor-General. It is not for him to have a meeting, but to summon the person who has spent the funds, so that they can be audited. It is even more acceptable to vet the people who will go to audit these security organs. We are simply saying that we have created a special cartel of auditors, the ones who audit public bodies and others who audit the security systems. Who made these people so large that they are above the law? The Constitution says, and we must repeat for them to hear and if they do not, somebody should knock at their door, and tell them that the law of this country is greater than the people who are managing our security or for this case, mismanaging it. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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