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    "content": "problems. We said that Kshs502 million should be removed from the Vote of the Judiciary. That is very little money. We said that it should be given to other departments which have serious problems. I have been asked by Members of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee to ask you to rule that matters dealing with departments that fall under the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee be transferred to the Budget and Appropriations Committee, so that we do not deal with them anymore. There is no point for us to deliberate on these matters. More importantly, we have two Members of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee who also sit in the Budget and Appropriations Committee. My own Vice-Chair presented this Report and then, even without courtesy, it was rejected. We spend so much time sitting and trying to resolve certain issues. Some hon. Members are saying that the same happens with all the Departmental Committees. I do not know about other committees. I know about the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee. On the Kshs100 million that we removed from the Judges and Magistrates Vetting Board, which was an allocation within the Attorney-General’s Office, we said that Kshs44 million should be put in legal education and the remaining amount to be allocated to pupilage programmes. We have over 800 students who leave law school annually, and who need legal pupilage. We agreed with the Solicitor-General and we were merely doing a reallocation. This House decided that the term of the Judges and Magistrates Vetting Board must end by 31st December 2015. The allocation they were given was for a whole year. We merely removed the part that they were not going to use but, without being asked, we are told--- Hon. Speaker, I apologise but I am a little bit upset because it is very unfair for me to waste my time, sitting in a committee meeting whose resolutions are not respected. We were trying to beat a deadline. We were told that we must present our proposals to the Budget and Appropriations Committee by 21st May 2015. That was why I left my constituency for Nairobi. That was why, maybe, some of us are rated at 53 per cent and others are rated more than 70 per cent. This is because we spend all our time in the House. Then when we spend all our time in the House, somebody comes and waves our resolutions away. I must also go and spend my time in my own constituency. It is not that I do not have anything else to do there. Hon. Speaker, can you give us guidance on what we should do with these people, who have become rogue? I seek your direction. I have stood on a point of order. I have the Report of the Justice and Appropriations Committee. I have duly signed it. It contains the views of all the 29 Members, who represent most of the constituencies across the country. They are not from Ainabkoi Constituency, so that you just look at it and say, “Leave this which comes from hon. Chepkong’a”. That is not true. We seek your guidance, so that all the proposals of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee can be included in this Report. I thank you."
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