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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Midiwo",
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        "legal_name": "Washington Jakoyo Midiwo",
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    "content": "My leader here wants to prove that Hon. Mutava is still spiritual. I do not know how you test another person’s spirituality. However, we are making progress. The time we took off for lunch has enabled people to think. Hon. Duale has made a good proposal based on facts. Hon. Mutava is also appealing appropriately. It is important that we set a good precedent. It may have happened differently in the last couple of years. The Constitution was still new to us and many Members were also new. My only appeal would be that as we go to consult, we know what the procedure is. We know that you have to consult the CS for the National Treasury, but these other ones, leave them to the committees to figure it out. Let the Budget and Appropriations Committee not do what is not in their purview. I would like to meet the CS for Foreign Affairs and give her my piece of mind because I am her boss generally in the Committee. We need to talk to her. We give them another chance. It is not us to hurt anybody. However, for Budget and Appropriations Committee to say we may burst the ceiling while they are adding money to Ministries whose budgets we have slashed, I do not understand how contradictory that would be. However, we want to give you a chance. What I want us to agree on is the mandate of Budget and Appropriations Committee. We must agree as a House between now and the date we come back. I am attracted, for concession purposes, to Tuesday so that we can meet Hon. Duale halfway and meet Budget and Appropriations Committee halfway. The most important thing why we are in this controversy is the mandate of Budget and Appropriations Committee. If you talk about ceilings, we put an upper ceiling for the SRC but you have surpassed it. So, they are bursting the ceiling without coming back to the House. Are you sure of your mandate? We must know if the committees can make suggestions. I can tell you in this Budget, the Departmental Committee on Education, Research and Technology, now that it dawned on them after I raised the issue that something unusual was happening--- Some universities, for example, are being given Kshs300 million. A big institution like Moi University, which we have even collapsed Garissa University College to join it, is being given Kshs40 million. Something is amiss in the---"
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