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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Limo",
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Kirui Limo",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Speaker. I stand to make my comments on what is going on. Hon. Speaker, it is very clear that it is important that for anything to happen in this House, we need to listen to each other, and have wide consultations. You have seen how costly it is when a certain thing has not been done and it has even cost us our time. Remember this is a special sitting, and we have taken almost two hours discussing this because of lack of consultation. There is an example which I will give. There was a company where someone did not consult and it cost millions of money because the company had to advertise that they had not made a mistake. This House is now discussing issues which could have been sorted out earlier. What I am suggesting in your ruling is that issues of chairs making consultations should be paramount in any discussions we are going to make going forward; decisions made without consultations are very costly. There are so many Ministries which have started taking this House for granted. Why? Because whether they present to the Committees and the Committees decide what they want or not, they know there is a way they will go about it. Other than going to the Budget and Appropriations Committee, which I am a Member of, they will go back, present their issues and bring them in the Supplementary Budget. There is actually mischief in law because if this House rejects a proposal from a Ministry, it is not a must that that Ministry will not spend money. We have realized they will go ahead, spend and bring it in the Supplementary Budget. So we need to look for a way of making sure that any rejection by this House and by a committee, which has been approved by this House during the budget-making process will not be allowed to appear in the Supplementary Budget; it makes decision taken by this House futile if we allow people to use other channels. On the issues we are discussing now, several committees appeared before the Budget and Appropriations Committee, which I sit on; for record purposes, I need to make it very clear that save for this issue of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations, all the other recommendations from other committees were taken into account without any change."
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