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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Losiakou",
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        "legal_name": "Losiakou David Pkosing",
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    "content": "wisdom. How can they give us a burden of Kshs3.3 billion and decide to go for recess? Who was supposed to solve this problem? Who are they leaving this problem for? Therefore, we have reduced their budget and we will support that. Next year, we will not agree to give people money to do campaigns. Oversight is not done individually. I am a member of the Departmental Committee on Defence and Foreign Relations. I cannot wake up one morning as hon. Pkosing, the Member for Pokot South, and call the Cabinet Secretary for Defence. I will not do that. This means that we are not doing oversight as individuals, as Senators wanted to do. We are doing it as institutions. We are doing it as a National Assembly and as a Committee. I suggest this for next year, particularly on the mediation. First, let us review the membership of the Mediation Committee. How on earth can we have three Members from the National Assembly and three Members from the Senate and yet we know very well that resolutions in politics is about voting? The Senate is not equivalent in terms of numbers with the National Assembly. We are 349 and they are about 60. Next year, we should have the Members of the Mediation Committee to correspond to the percentage membership of the Houses. For example, if we have three Senators in the Mediation Committee, then we have six National Assembly Members so that when we go to the mediation, we represent the views of the House. Secondly, let us also have Intergovernmental Budget and Economic Council (IBEC). How can the Senate forget that there was IBEC? If they had opinions they should have passed there. In fact, they shot themselves on their feet. How could they pass the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) and later refuse when it comes to appropriation? I suggest that in the next in financial year we have one member from the National Assembly, particularly the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriation Committee. Also a similar Member from the Senate should join the IBEC so that we can avoid this problem. If we do not do that, then we should come up with vetoing powers. Let us veto to finish this issue of mediation. The originating House of a Bill should have the vetoing power so that if the other House refuses our version, then it comes back to us as the National Assembly and we will veto it because we are the ones who originated the Bill and we know the reason. People were laughing and clapping when somebody was introducing a Bill from the Senate on Potatoes. People were very happy and laughing. In fact, Members were asking you to put the Question. If that is theirs then we give them so that we can move this country forward. We cannot be irresponsible by providing resolutions without knowing where the money is coming from. This is the best lesson this country has ever learnt today. Anybody who causes a problem must be able to carry that problem or provide solutions, including the National Treasury. Therefore, I support this Motion and urge the House to move as fast as possible so that our country can have resources. I thank you, hon. Speaker."
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