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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Tobiko",
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        "legal_name": "Peris Pesi Tobiko",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the Bill because it is of good intent to protect all Kenyans equally. Earlier on, the Hon. Member for Narok North, Hon. ole Kenta, spoke and I agree with him. I am not sure whether it is a case of putting the cart before the horse in this Transfer of Prisoners Bill. Last night, we came as members of the Departmental Committee on Labour and Social Welfare from the United Arab Emirates (UAE), having visited the country because of our migrant workers; we also visited Manila City, Philippines, to see the policies they have put in place in the protection of their citizens in foreign countries. What we got to learn there is that Kenya is yet to sign bilateral agreements with other nations. When we talk about prisoners, or Kenyans in prisons abroad, and we are not even putting the necessary policies and agreements in place, then I feel like we have started the process from the back coming forward. It is a good Bill either way and we support it. I also believe that from what we learned for a whole week in those countries we need to put the necessary labour laws in place to protect Kenyans who migrate to other countries. We also realised that for Kenyans who have left the country, our system has not made a follow up to know who has left the country, even through migration. So, we have 40,000 Kenyans in the UAE but nobody can really account for them. An earlier speaker said that we have 17 in prison. Yesterday we were told that we have around 22 in Dubai and several in Abu Dhabi; there are more. We are not monitoring the movement of Kenyans as we should. I also agree with the Bill that it is important to seek the consent of the prisoner, and know if he or she wants to be brought back to the country or not. They will have to weigh whether it is the family ties that are stronger than the environment that they are The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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