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    "id": 555534,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/555534/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Anyango",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 130,
        "legal_name": "Dalmas Anyango Otieno",
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    "content": "we have committed ourselves to as a basis for the management of our own prisons? Let them come back. Let it also be known that we have rescued so-and-so out of a terrible crime. When you only hear that somebody has been jailed in Bangkok, and you do not have a chance to go and see that person in prison, you do not have a chance to contribute to the rehabilitation of that person. In fact, you have not learnt enough from that crime. In a society, there is a principle that I have come to accept. It is that you can only know a good person after you have seen a bad one. You will only know a bad person if you have an opportunity to see a good one. So, these people have roles they play in our society. So, let our bad ones come back to be lessons to our good ones, so that they do not cross the border to become bad in future in their efforts to earn a living. I support this Bill. It is really a very helpful Bill. I have a person I know who has been selling drugs, but other people do not know about it. That is they betray one another. I am talking about a widow. Somebody took advantage of the widow, gave her drugs and then she was betrayed in Bangkok. She is now awaiting hanging in Bangkok. Honestly, some of them have been cheated into committing crimes. Not that they knew fully what they were getting into, but they thought they were friends of some Nigerians; they thought those people meant well. She did not know that somebody was on the same plane with her all the way to Bangkok. When she was arrested the person ran away. So, some have landed in crime out of deceit by other hardcore criminals. For the prisoners who will qualify for transfer, this Bill provides the process through which their rehabilitation and return will be handled. Each case will be examined on its own merit. The previous practice was that one’s relatives had to make a request, which was then examined. Maybe we should even get an undertaking from the prisoner. I know of a bishop who is not afraid of mentioning that he was a hard-core criminal. He is Bishop Ng’ang’a. If we can have more Ng’ang’a’s converted to come and preach to our criminals, it will strengthen the correctional service principles that we have committed ourselves to. It is possible for human beings to change. It is possible for behaviour to be corrected. Let us accept that all Kenyans, wherever they are, are our responsibility. With the passing of this Bill, we must have a registration process in our laws. This will enable Kenyans who arrive in a foreign country where we have an embassy to register and provide their addresses in those countries. You do not have to physically go to the embassy. You can always register online, so that we are able to monitor and know which Kenyans are in which country and what they are doing. That brings me to those who have gone to look for jobs elsewhere, particularly in the Middle East, where cultural practices are different and discrimination is still rampant. Exit to go and seek employment elsewhere should be after proper orientation in our country. It should be mandatory that anybody who is going out under an employment arrangement has to go through a scheme approved by the Government. We must also know who is going to be the employer. We must have that in our bilateral agreements with other countries. If you are going to seek any qualified labour from Kenya to go and work in your country, there are certain procedures that you have to go through. We must know the employer and his or her address, so that if a Kenyan is going to suffer in the hands of any employer then our embassy can access the authorities in that country to save the Kenyan. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
}