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    "id": 558600,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kihagi",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 2481,
        "legal_name": "John Karanja Kihagi",
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    "content": "We were able to conclude that both the Muchanga and the Telesource claims are questionable. The Muchanga’s claim is fatally questionable for that particular presentation. It was unfortunate that Muchanga decided not to come to the Committee but once he learnt that the Committee is seized of the matter, he went to court. Telesource came and presented their documents. These were also the documents that we found at the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development. We also find that there are questionable ways in which one, John Mugo Kamau acquired this land and later transferred it to Telesource Limited. The Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development could not provide all the documents that appertain to that transfer given that land transfer is not just something you do like you are transferring a chattel. This is a fixed asset. This is an asset that serious legal processes are supposed to be undertaken before the same is presented. Having said that, the sub-committee advised that we may not be able to conclusively judge who the owner of the land is. That is why we are saying that a forensic audit by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) and other relevant agencies needs to be undertaken to show clearly what these fraudulent transactions that are found in these documents presented to us. The attempt to drag Members of Parliament into this was supposed to make the matter juicier and more newsworthy by some quarters. In our presentation and deliberations with the land registrars and also the purported lawyers of Telesource Limited, nowhere did we get indication that a Member of this House or the Senate was involved in these deliberations. Nowhere did we find indication that a Member of this House or the Senate has benefited either by purchase or otherwise from this land in conflict. So we find that, that allegation was just supposed to whip emotions out there. It was supposed to discredit Members of this House as beneficiaries of the same. We wish to say that we find the National Land Information Management System to be a critical tool that if this House pushed and funded properly, would enable such cases not to appear in the future. We recommend that there should be substantial support to the land sector in this country. We note that in the Budget that has just been passed, the land sector in this country only got Kshs9 billion out of Kshs2 trillion Budget. Our most precious natural resource, land, only got slightly less than Kshs9 billion. This amount is also what our land sector generates in terms of land rate. So, there should be a critical relook at our funding of the land sector budget to enable the Ministry, the National Land Commission (NLC) and other relevant agencies to come up with serious national land information system that will enable members even get their notifications The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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