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    "id": 558620,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Muia",
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        "legal_name": "Regina Nthambi Muia",
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    "content": "I am more confused at the final stages of this piece of land because it seems that Mr. Arnold disappeared or died, and then the same lawyer who was a custodian of this piece of land transferred it to another company. The Committee had an opportunity to call and interrogate all the Ministers who have been in charge of that Ministry to date. They are about five. The Committee should not have jumped to the current Cabinet Secretary. It is like the National Assembly being accused for a mistake that was committed by the 10th Parliament without interrogating the Members of former Parliaments. It is very unfair when one is in authority and an issue from the past comes up, and he or she is accused of it. Mr. Kamau and others transferred this piece of land and after one year, it was given a different number. This continued that way. When the Committee was investigating this issue, many people said a lot of things about the Members. The Committee was not able to tell the country the owners of the pieces of land after they were sub-divided. People began from there because there are documents. We should ask the people where they got the piece of land from and who gave it to them. Then we can go backwards and interrogate the Ministers who have been there before. The Committee only pinned down the current Cabinet Secretary who is on suspension, Hon. Charity Ngilu, and said that she had to give information. Hon. Ngilu was not even born in 1928 and I do not know how she could have given the Committee any information. The Committee jumped to this issue because they wanted her to be pinned down on this issue. There is a lot that we are not getting from this Committee and I am not going to support their recommendations. They are telling us what happened up to 1978. What happened to this piece of land from 1980, 1991 and 2000? Who are the people who got pieces of this land? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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