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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mwiru",
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        "legal_name": "Alex Muthengi Mburi Mwiru",
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    "content": "It is always your discretion, therefore, I proceed. I want to thank the Members who have contributed to this particular Motion. I have noted with quite some concern and interest what the Member for Rongo, Hon. Otieno, has contributed on this particular Motion. The issue was that the Committee be seized of this matter continuously so that, at least, we are able to respond to the queries of the public. It is a matter over which I would need to sit down with him and then liaise with you as the House Chair to see how we can continue being seized of this matter, so that it does not get blown off by the wind; we need to move forward with it. I have also heard concerns of Members and we are about to introduce amendments to three statutes that we passed hurriedly in 2012 since we were going into politics. They are the Land Act, the Land Registration Act and the National Land Commission Act, so that we can harmonise functions and how these entities are supposed to move forward. I will seek the indulgence of the House and its support, so that we can sort out some of the problems we find in the Ministry and in the National Land Commission. On the matter of whether we have been able to sit down with the National Land Commission and the Ministry, we have. As a Committee, we have tried a lot. We have been able to sit with them several times and we have done many retreats with them and the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee (CIOC). We have done a lot except that at times people do not want to move with time. At times, people do not want to modernize the way the world is modernizing. They want to remain in the cocoons where they have been making some little money by way of forging documents. I believe the direction we are going to take with the support of this Parliament, is going to result in a better budget for these entities; now we have only Ksh9 billion. We will then be able to automate some of the operations, so that it is easier for the public to access information; it is becoming a problem even when we want to do a search in any registry in this particular country. We are moving in that direction. As a Chair of this Committee, I want to state here that at no time did the National Land Commission or the Cabinet Secretary in the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development refuse to avail documents. The only problem was that there are disjointed or haphazard records. That is what we need to sort out, so that we make sure that things move forward smoothly. If anything, there is no intention at all from any of the officers of the National Land Commission, or the Cabinet Secretary of the Ministry for Lands, Housing and Urban Development to hide or withdraw any information that we required as a Committee. When they could not provide further information, we always followed up and made sure the information was made available. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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