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    "content": "During the Committee of the Whole, we should introduce a clause in this Bill that will require that the approving Committee is given evidence to show that the process of interviewing before the person emerged for approval attracted all manner of people to ensure that the principle of inclusivity is given to all the residents of a county. We could be given a name that has been tailor-made. We should fall back to make sure that the person went through a competitive process that allowed people from all the shades within the county to participate. Madam Temporary Speaker, the Chairman of the Committee said that in Clause 5, subject to this Act, all Committee proceedings on public appointments shall be open and transparent. It is important that we underline this. I am surprised that some of my colleagues are suggesting that candidates have an option of either being interviewed in camera or in public. That option should not be there. The moment someone steps into the arena of wanting to be a public officer, he must be prepared to open up his life. We want to know the man or woman that we are entrusting our fate with. This is important so that people following the proceeding of the Committee know whether a candidate is lying. We should then follow it up in Clause 5 by doing two things. First, we should provide for an opportunity to verify claims. Supposing, for example, somebody comes and lies and the members of the public know that this man or woman is lying; we should give a second opportunity after that person has lied, for any member of the public who might have contrary information, to provide to the Committee. Second, we should delete Clause 6, which says that despite sub-section 5, a Committee may, on its own Motion, on the application of a candidate or any other concerned person determine that the whole or the part of the sitting shall be held in camera. It must never be held in camera. If you have something to hide and you do not want people to know that you are a polygamist and you are ashamed of it, then do not go for the job. If you know you are gay and you do not want people to know, then do not present yourself because your being gay will be discussed. Madam Temporary Speaker, Clause 7 provides that an approval hearing shall focus on a candidate’s credentials, professional training, experience, personal integrity and background. The Chairman of the Committee should tell us what he means by “background”. We want “background” to be incisive, it should include family history. We want to de-size ourselves as members of the county assembly. Could we entrust somebody who has been unable to manage a family, that is, a wife, a daughter, a son and, probably a grandson, to manage a public office? If he has been unable to manage such a critical small unit of his own, the answer is “no.” In fact, in all the cultures and particularly the Luyha, it is very difficult for you to win an election in Luhya land when you are not married. This is because people wonder why they should give someone a job when he has been unable to take care of his own family. I am glad to also know that the Kisiis, who are my in-laws, also apply the same. Clause 10---"
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