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    "id": 566955,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Lesan",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Wilfred Rottich Lesan",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, first, I want to thank you for allowing me to share in the discussion on this very important Motion on security. I want to thank Sen. Billow for bringing this Motion. He has done so before, due to the concerns he has about insecurity in his county. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, terrorism is not only a Kenyan problem, but an international one. It is also a religious problem. For a long time we have been afraid to say that terrorism is associated with religion. There was an article in the TribuneMagazine in New York which said that by last week terrorism had become the biggest killer of Muslims than any other disease. This terrorism, although being a religious problem, does not know any boundaries. In fact, more Muslims are, perhaps, being killed today through terrorism than anything else. Terrorists come in form of Jihadists, Al Shabaab or Muslim Brotherhood. This problem has spread throughout the world. Therefore, we should look at it from that picture and liaise with all the other countries to form an international watchdog to tackle terrorism. Terrorism is not only going to kill people, but overthrow governments and install the kind of governments which are of Islamic nature with their own regulations and rules which, unfortunately, are not human friendly. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is time that we roll back the frontiers of terrorism as it affects our country. I was very glad to read a message sent by Goodluck Jonathan, the former President of Nigeria, to his own President Gen. Buhari, wishing him the best of luck as he fights terrorism in that country. He also went ahead to suggest ways in which that could be done. I would wish the Opposition leaders in this country would also do the same because we must confront terrorism together. We must also deal with incubators where people are being radicalized or intoxicated if we have to handle this problem early enough. We should look at the push and pull factors that attract youth to terrorism and deal with them. There is a report in this country that is saying that some of the biggest incubators are our universities. In fact, there is information that there are many students in our universities on the Al Shabaab payroll. We should not consider poverty as one of the causes because it is not the major “push” factor. Some of the greatest terrorists on earth were not poor; Osama bin Laden was a billionaire owning oil fields. The young man called Adams killed in Mombasa comes from a more than average home in the United Kingdom (UK). Therefore, poverty is not one of the factors. We should look at those factors critically and know how to deal with them. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have been afraid to profile Kenyans. However, I think it is time that we profiled all Kenyans so that we know who is who and who does what. It is important that we do so. We have an Immigration Department and we also have the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics. Therefore, we can find out where every Kenyan is and handle all the issues. So, profiling is not as bad as we have been saying. Every Kenyan should be profiled so that we know who we are living with and what they The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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