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    "content": "there is an opportunity of rising to be a principal secretary in the county government, the staff should move and not lose his pension. It should be transferrable. Therefore, there should be an agreement between the county and the national Government to provide for seamless transfer of staff and protection of pension funds. I have seen here that one can withdraw from a pension scheme when they leave employment, when they retire or when one passes on but this should not be the end of the scheme. It should not be the policy of the scheme that when you transfer to another institution, then you withdraw everything before attaining the retirement age. We should make it possible that the scheme can be protected that when one retires, the pensioner can still get his lump sum. It is also preferable if part of the pension is held for monthly payments. Pensioners have been public servants and when some of them get this money, they do not know how to invest, people borrow from them and some of them pay dowry with the money or build houses. This shows that some of them are not good investors. It is important that a portion of it remains for monthly disbursements so that the pensioners do not come back to the Government claiming more benefits. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in this country, generally, there is a problem of pension particularly in the public sector. It is only through pension that a public servant would benefit than a private sector employee. In this country, employees in the private sector suffer a lot. I do not know whether the Government has any policy on pension. There was a time that it was compulsory for employers in the private sector to engage their staff on permanent and pensionable terms. Most of the new employees end up being recruited on short contracts of one year to ensure that they do not claim any pension benefits from their employers. Even the most profitable companies in this country boast of carrying out corporate social responsibility but the employee is not catered for. Most of the young people from university are employed by big companies but the moment they are due for promotion to the next stage, they are sacked claiming that the contract has expired and then new young people are employed to be exploited. It is time the Ministry of Labour looks at the pension policies both in the private and public sector to ensure that our youth are guaranteed pension when they retire. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am afraid that when the younger generation retire, they will not get the pension like some of us got when we retired from public service. That is an issue that needs to be looked at. I do not want to talk about the hassle that pensioners have to undergo to claim their pension. I would wish that at the stage when we are formulating and finalizing this Bill, we make it compulsory that when payment is due, it is paid and if it is delayed, then penalties and interests should accrue. If that is not done, then certain punitive measures should be instituted. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, another issue that is of concern and this could be a matter that should be considered under a pension policy, is the issue of inflation. Workers who have contributed Kshs20 or Kshs100 for the last 30 years ago, when they get their The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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