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    "content": "When you read on the social media the Member for Gatundu Constituency, Moses Kuria, talking about those uncircumcised people with HIV/AIDS, he should know that the population of Nakuru County have fewer uncircumcised Kenyans than he thinks and yet it has such a high percentage. I happen to know because I have practiced medicine across the Republic of Kenya. At No.9 is Kakamega County with 55,000 people living with HIV and finally Turkana County. Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to say why there is need for us to have these centres in counties. The bottom line of combating HIV/AIDS is civic education and ensuring that people have access to ARVs. If these centres are there, then the following things will be discussed during civic education. At the moment, the issue of marriage is now a fact; that the highest prevalence of HIV/AIDS is amongst married couples. These are things that should be discussed in counties in vernacular. In the former Western and Nyanza provinces where I and Sen. Ongoro come from, respectively, there is a culture called wife inheritance. Let me say here and now that wife inheritance is a good thing. Without it, all the orphaned children would perish. However, because of wife inheritance, as soon as your brother passes on, you take over his family. We want to use these centres to teach these people that you can continue with wife inheritance, but on condition that you inherit your brother’s wife and give her economic support and not sexual support. These things must be discussed in vernacular. However, when you tell a Luo that wife inheritance is a stupid thing, he will not listen because you are telling him that he should forget about the orphans of his late brother. Madam Temporary Speaker, we should have these centres, especially in Nairobi County where young married people who have HIV/AIDS are practicing wife swapping. This is where successful middle class young couples go for outings. After beer, they say, let us exchange; you test mine and I test yours. These things are actually taking place. If you did not know, they now have clubs for wife swapping. In fact, they call them in their language these days, “swing couples”. I have discovered these things because I have decided to connect with the youth seriously through Twitter, Facebook and other social media fora. We can use this opportunity to demystify this because these young people think that through “swing coupleship”, there is enhancement of sexuality; that you will find something from the other couple of how the other one does so that he performs better. We want to use these centres to discuss frankly about the myth of circumcision. The media has lauded that HIV/AIDS is a problem of uncircumcised men. The uncircumcised people, my neighbours, have started circumcising. However, the circumcised ones have stupidly thought that HIV/AIDS is not their problem. They have dropped the guard on condoms and other prevention measures. We have to discuss these things and tell them what exactly it is that circumcision does. I may come back to it, but because of shortage of time, let me proceed. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am so surprised that a professor of medicine, the Senator for Bomet can use this opportunity to pre-empt what the President of the United States of America will tell us. President Obama is surely not coming to Kenya to discuss The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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