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    "id": 571329,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 193,
        "legal_name": "Peter Anyang' Nyong'o",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second this Motion moved by Sen. (Eng.) Muriuki. As usual, he has a custom of breaking into new ground. This, indeed, is a new ground. As Sen. (Eng.) Muriuki says said, this is an issue that was handled by the TA but it did not handle it as a long-term measure but as an emergency measure. In other words, given that counties had just been established, and that county assemblies had been elected, neither the county executives nor the county assemblies could have been assured premises where they did not exist. Where those premises might have existed in terms of old local authorities, they needed to be adopted to serve the new dispensation in the counties. For example, local authorities did not necessarily need to have HANSARD records and, therefore, some of those adjustments had to be made in such premises and the TA budgeted some Kshs61.2 million that was sent to counties to cater for urgent expenses that were needed to settle in both the county governments and the county assemblies. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, now time has come to see county assemblies and county governments as aspects of our governmental system which must last for long. We should look at the period of the TA; as its name suggests, it was a transition. We need now to make a transition to a permanent existence of devolved government. Therefore, whatever we do should be additive to that permanent existence in the long run rather than ephemeral to that existence. I think the Motion that Sen. (Eng.) Muriuki has brought to the House is extremely timely. When the TA was doing this with the county governments, I think they approached the secretariat of the former Ministry of Public Works to come up with models of county assemblies. I think the Ministry in charge should come up with models of the executive government of counties. I am saying this because if you go to the United States of America, which perhaps is one of the most advanced systems of devolved government, if you go to any State, you will always know where the State Capital is by The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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