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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kariuki Ndegwa",
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        "legal_name": "Julius Ndegwa Kariuki",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I join hands with my colleagues to empathise with Hon. Wamalwa. It is disappointing for anybody to deny legislators an opportunity to give their views and deliberate on issues which affect the country. The officers of the EACC are just there to settle scores. They intimidate people while investigating them. They help political losers to fight leaders. If you look at today’s newspapers, you will see the people who are supposed to be investigated. These are just laymen as far as investigations are concerned. We have the Auditor-General who can easily tell who has misappropriated funds. We also have another body which is meant for investigations, namely the DCI. So, we have duplication of duties. Laymen with no qualifications are supposed to investigate other persons, whereas we have people who are competent and have proper qualifications to enable them analyse misappropriation and misuse of public funds. These people should be treated as we treated the former Electoral Commission of Kenya. The Commission should be disbanded. If that body has to remain, we should recruit competent people. We should not just pick a person and tell him that he will watch over public funds because he knows who is who. The EACC officers are there to enrich themselves by intimidating public officers. They get into offices in the guise of investigations. If I want to intimidate anybody today, EACC officers will be the best persons to hire. Just tell them “Today, Hon. John Mbadi is getting at me seriously; can you keep him on his toes?” When they start investigating, I will then ask them to take him to court and harass him. They will feel that they are achieving their objective. I would like to join my colleagues and say that the EACC Secretariat should be investigated to find out whether they are executing their mandate properly without any influence from certain quarters."
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