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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo",
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        "legal_name": "Nicholas Gumbo",
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    "content": "As I speak here, I do so as a qualified professional in this area. One of the areas that have been very frustrating for us as engineers is that we have opened our markets freely to engineers from this region, but we have had very serious difficulties - my good friend, Hon. (Eng.) Mahamud, will bear witness - when a Kenyan engineer tries to set up camp in Tanzania, for instance; we are looked at very suspiciously. There is no question that we have tended to develop our professional base better than in the other regions. I would want a situation where if East Africa is to cooperate, let us carry this cooperation we are seeing in the areas of defence to trade and professional interchanges. For a long time, as engineers in East Africa, we have been trying to work on a mutual recognition agreement where as a registered engineer in Kenya, I do not need to seek registration in Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda or Burundi to practise. It appears to be the spirit but is totally different when it comes to the practice. I think this is the real meaningful cooperation that we need because there are countries which can exist even without a defence force, because defence presupposes that you will have to confront antagonistic situations from the region or outside. It is possible, if we can have harmonious region where trade can be fostered, professionalism and exchanges at the intellectual level can be fostered; that would guarantee better prosperity for our people and we would not even need to get into these kinds of engagements. Be that as it may, this is a good Report by the Committee which needs to be commended. Let us use such agreements to foster the oneness of East Africa, so that when an East African moves from Kenya to Tanzania, you feel at home in Kenya as much as you feel in Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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