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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. That is why I wanted to say that if I interfere, for example, with that case, it is the same way they interfere with our operation. I would take a position where the court continues making a judgement and Members of Parliament continue making laws. For example, if a court would stop us from operating, then it means the PAC and the PIC will not operate because in some of these cases, we summon witnesses and the court also summons the same witnesses. Also, do not forget about Article 125 of our Constitution that gives us the same power as the High Court. Therefore, we should not be stopped by any court of law from our operations. Lastly, what is happening currently is that there appears to be collusion between the police and the courts. For example, in the last two days in my constituency, policemen went to an area in Ngong, arrested about 30 businessmen and took them to police station. Those who did not cough up Kshs1,000 were taken to court and the court asked them to pay Kshs4,000. So, we are saying that the courts are hardening Kenyans. With those remarks, I support this amendment."
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