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    "id": 578907,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Nyamweya",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Manson Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, for giving me this chance to support this Bill. The Bill is very important in the sense that it will bring clarity between the Judiciary and the National Assembly. What we are experiencing is that the Judiciary has almost started supervising our discussions here in the National Assembly. It will reach a point whereby if there is a debate going on here, someone will go to court and get a ruling that we cannot discuss that issue. We will be stopped from debating. Another issue is between us and the Senate. We need to address each other as hon. Members and understand that we are here to serve this country, to work for Kenyans and to ensure that we pass laws which can improve the democratic space in this country. We also contribute meaningfully. Sometimes, we talk at each other and waste valuable time. One thing we cannot recover is time. If today goes, we cannot get it tomorrow. There is the issue of us discussing what our role is and what the role of the Senate is. We are all towards one goal; to make this country better. None of us is more superior to the other. What is more disturbing at the levels of the National Assembly and the Senate is using the powers we have been given by the Constitution to summon various Ministries and organizations. We must also look at our mandate and take note that when we summon those people to appear before us to discuss and interact with them, we take their valuable time. We have an example of Kenya Airways. We are taking the valuable time of the stakeholders involved. The Senate is involved. When you are making a ruling, will you implement what you are saying? If you know that you cannot, then you should check yourself and understand that you are not doing the right thing. Equally, the National Assembly has a role to play. I support this Bill as amended so that we get clarity. This House is known for what it is. More importantly, I support county governments. We are in a crisis at the moment in the county governments. The county governments, county assemblies and members do not know their mandate. Probably, there could have been a mistake when this new Constitution was put in place. When elections were done, Members of the National Assembly and the country governments were not taken for training to understand their roles. They did not go through a The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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