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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Speaker",
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    "content": "Hon. Members, I am not aware of any Motion since I have not seen such Motion. I am the one who approves Motions. I have not seen any court summons either. However, I have seen Members of Parliament debate on television, purporting to be impeaching people. The way to impeach a person is through a Motion brought to the House through the Clerk, who should then bring it to me for approval. That is the way we have always dealt with such Motions. We can deal with the matter here. So, regarding the issues debated on television shows like Cheche and other such programmes that even “cooked up” court orders, I clarify that I have not seen any such court order. I have not even seen any court summons. If people want to excite themselves, it is okay. You know people want to be happy. If people want to excite their supporters, it is okay. I cannot rule on things which have not come to the Floor of this House. Honestly, it would be unfair on my part to be required to make any ruling about something that I have not seen. Nothing has come to me. Since you said that you have submitted a Motion, please, ask the Clerk why it has not come to me. As usual, these are things which are easy to deal with. The rules are so clear. If it has come to my desk, it would have found its way here very fast. So, I am not sure whether you have filed it because I have not seen it. I cannot, therefore, comment on purported court orders. Those are for those people who just want to talk about things out there in the streets. We cannot bring those kinds of matters in the House. I quite agree with you, Hon. Maanzo. You saw me, but again, I have not seen the court order, the summons or even the Motion. So, if I purport to make a ruling now, I will be making a ruling in futility. I have not seen any of those. If there is a court order, there should have been a proper process. I am not aware. So, the best we can do here is to ignore. Let us wait and deal with the matter when it becomes active and alive here. You are the people who make decisions on matters of Motions. I also believe that matters legislative must be left to the exclusive domain of the Legislature. At that rate, if it does not happen, we will even put in the Kenya Gazette announcements that we are going to be addressed by certain persons and then we will be told that we have been injuncted. You can imagine the kind of embarrassment that would cause. Then it means that Parliament does not have a calendar of its own. The only rule that we know of is one of sub-judice . Again, for us to make a decision on that one, we need to see the actual substance of the matter. We cannot just tell Members not to discuss or debate issues merely because somebody is doing some other things out there. We are an independent arm of the Government."
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