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"content": "a window for governors to appoint their cronies and say the person has been running a Community Based Organization (CBO) to do with Aids, therefore, he has sufficient experience. When you look at the fellow, you find he is just a briefcase CBO, he has never run anything and there he is, put to chair a Committee that requires a discharge of professional service and professional experience. 2. Clause 5 (2) (b):- “One person nominated by the county executive committee member in charge of health in the county who shall be the secretary to the Committee”. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this person’s qualifications must be described so that we do not just have anybody. We have had a situation where people are appointed to positions they do not merit. You have seen members of the public going to courts and challenging appointments of County Executive Committees Members (CECs) with fake degrees. We have seen vetting with people with fake degrees. We need proper qualifications to be described. The sponsor of the Bill should also indicate that such persons must be qualified and display their qualifications from recognized institutions so that people do not just go to River Road and manufacture degrees, come and present their graduates and then get appointments that they cannot merit. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we always say you can go and forge a degree in Geography or History but you cannot forge a degree in a profession where you are going to determine the lives of people. A degree in Medicine, a degree in Architecture, a degree in Engineering where you are going to design a bridge that will be used to cross big rivers, a degree in law where you are going to court to defend somebody for whom your professional services can determine his life - We must be very careful when we are dealing with those kind of qualifications. If you are looking for somebody who has a degree in Geography, he can lie that Mt. Kilimanjaro is not the highest mountain in Africa. That will not hurt anybody. But when you are dealing with somebody who is going to design a 28-storey building, you need to be very careful, because he is going to determine peoples’ lives. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Clause 5 (2) (c) states; “One man and one woman with knowledge and experience in matters relating to AIDS”, I want to encourage Sen. (Dr.) Machage that these vague statements in law are not good. You must be precise; say what you mean and mean what you say, so that nothing is left to any doubt that this is what you intended. So, I encourage that one man and one woman is okay but they must be qualified in some particular way that is relevant to the management of HIV/AIDS. If you are looking for social workers, because it is not just about treatment, it is about management, you are looking for nurses, nutritionists, then describe them as such so that we do not leave it to the discretion that can be abused. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Clause 5 (2) (d) states: - “One man and one woman appointed by the county governor to represent such special interests within the county as the governor shall determine”. Again, what are special interests? You may find the governor appointing his son or wife to represent special interests. We must define what special interests are, and if you want to lift the definition in the Constitution, so be it, so that special interests are not used to reward cronies, sycophants, cheerleaders and people who will just go there and do nothing. If we are talking about persons living with disabilities, let us say so. If it is the youth, let us say so. If it is people living with disabilities of the skin like albinos, let us say so, so that we The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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