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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Gikaria",
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    "content": "is important for it to go through the Liaison Committee so that it can look at the implementation aspect. The Motion as it is raises very many queries. Hon. Korir has tried to bring an amendment to try and talk about the lost firearms only. Very many Motions have been passed in Parliament and my Committee has taken initiative to try and see how the Cabinet Secretary (CS) is supposed to implement them. Illegal arms are in the hands of very many Kenyans in Pokot, Turkana and other areas. It has become very difficult as Hon. Wesley has said to track them. We have very many illegal firearms in the hands of criminals and Kenyans who are not criminals in some areas want to protect themselves because the Government has not been able to protect them. It is important to start thinking about the implementation of most of these things. Putting those tracking gadgets has some financial implications. These are things we need to look at as Parliament so that we do not become a place where we resolve and urge the Government to do something and it is never done. Part of this Motion says:- “…acknowledging the need for the mechanism to provide real-time geophysical geographical location and movement of firearms to facilitate recovery of ---” Hon. Wesley has made it very clear that it should be amended to read: “Stolen firearms and a forensic identification of guns used in crime scenes.” We need to look at the Motion and see what we need to do. You can imagine how many thousands of firearms are out there with the police who are licensed firearms holders and those that are illegal. I could have been licensed but it was stolen. The issue here is when it is used for a criminal offence. That is the most important thing that we need to include. We need to look into the implementation aspect as we look towards passing this Motion, and it is a good idea. What we were saying with my colleagues here is that, yes, guns can be tracked when they have the device. However, how do you stop a criminal mind from executing their intentions? When most of the criminals want to commit a crime, the most important thing to them is a firearm to be used. In America and in the western world, everybody can walk into a shop and purchase a firearm and keep it for his protection. Sometimes something happens and they end up using the same firearm for criminal activities. It is important for us to look into how we can stop firearms from being used for criminal activities even when they have tracking devices. For the people who normally give out firearms, it is good to check the firearm when it is returned. The authority should know the history of the firearm. The authority should do some investigations and ensure that they give a firearm to the right person who will not use it for any crime. I am saying this because the other day a pilot decided to kill passengers in a commercial plane. At some point, they tried to stop this person from becoming a pilot because of his mental state, but he ended up becoming a pilot and ended up doing what he did in the plane. As much as we seek security, we also need to give firearms to the right people. As I support the Motion, we need to be keen when it comes to its implementation. This is because almost two-thirds of the Motions we have passed, the CSs have given us feedback saying it is not possible for them to implement them because of different reasons. With those few remarks, I am a little bit not sure whether to support this Motion. This is purely because of the implementation aspect of it."
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