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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogolla",
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. One thing I might want to quickly look at in this debate is that we are in a situation where there is the issue of the chicken and the egg. This depends on how we want to look at the matter. Certain things are very clear that Major (Rtd.) Shadrack Muiu Mutia was a competent Kenyan who was interviewed, vetted and recruited to be a Commissioner. These are facts. Out of those processes, he convinced everybody that he was competent. By that fact, he was made a Commissioner. The whole issue in terms of what happens thereafter is clear that it was an issue of sickness, and not competence anymore. That is why I am saying we are in a situation of the chicken and the egg. I was a little uncomfortable with the extent to which the Committee looked at the petitioners. I have one problem with the petitioners in the sense that instead of looking on how to fill the vacancy created out of death, they looked at how to dismiss a sick Commissioner from office. They are using death as an additional disadvantage to the Commission rather than the main disadvantage to the Commission. This is where I had a problem with the petitioners. The death of Esther would have taken much more prominence than the sickness of Shadrack Muiu. If you look at it in that manner, then two or three issues emerge. The Commission cannot transact its business properly as a Commission of the Republic of Kenya and it cannot lead itself. There are certain things that must be looked at when the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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