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    "id": 596431,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kembi Gitura",
    "speaker_title": "The Chairperson",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "James Kembi Gitura",
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    "content": " Hon. Senators, I have listened to all of you. I have heard what you said, but one thing I would like to make it clear from where I am sitting is that I cannot overrule the Speaker’s Communication from the Chair. In fact, even if I was sitting in the main Chamber, I cannot overrule what the Speaker has said. The matter is of great importance to all of us, and we have to reach a decision on it. The Speaker gave a considered ruling or communication yesterday on the issue. It is because of that ruling that we are now here. I do not believe that it was contemplated by the Speaker when he gave the ruling that the sitting at Committee, which we are - as Sen. Orengo refers to, because we are sitting correctly at Committee. Therefore, the Speaker was right not to be here. There is nothing I can do to reverse this issue. So, there are only two things now that stand between us. We are dealing with Order Nos.8 and 9. The question is for us to decide whether or not, we are properly constituted. If we are properly constituted pursuant to the ruling of the Speaker, then we must proceed. If we are not properly constituted, then we must report progress. That would have to be done, but I cannot sit here and pretend that I am superintending the Speaker in his ruling. As the Speaker, when he made this ruling or communication, in the first instance, it was after a debate that had been instigated by the four Senators that I mentioned. He gave what Sen. Wetangula calls a considered Communication from the Chair. The only thing I can deal with now is not by way of trying to make a reversal. So, we must proceed with the two orders. Sen. Orengo has moved under our own Standing Order No.99 that the Chairperson do now report progress. However, if you look at Standing Order No.99 (1), it is clear in its terms and it does not give me a window. It only gives me a window if I consider it to be an abuse of the process of the Senate. I do not consider it to be an abuse because, as I said in my considered opinion again, this communication ought to have been debated before the Speaker, so that you could tell him like you are telling me now The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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