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    "content": "cursory glance at it, there are two kinds of recommendations that have been made in this report. There are those that say; for instance, that the Committee unanimously found that although, there was violation of the law; the violation did not rise to the level of gross violation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, when I go to Murang’a tomorrow, and the people ask me; “what happened in the Senate?” I will tell them that a threshold was said not to have been attained. The question that must be answered by this Senate tonight, as an answer to the people of Murang’a County, is this: Under Article 181 of the Constitution, who has the mandate to deal with threshold? Is it the Committee or is it the plenary of the Senate? Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to say this for posterity. Once we get a finding that a law has been violated – and I am the Senator for Murang’a County, tomorrow when they ask me, what then, shall be the restitution? What will happen? These are questions that must be answered. The question that we must answer here is this: Is it for the Committee that we selected to give those answers or is it the plenary of this Senate? Standing Order No.68(2)(4)(d) does not talk about threshold; neither Section 33 of the County Governments Act nor Article 181 of the Constitution talks about threshold. Therefore, it begs the question; if the Committee comes and tells us that a certain law has been breached, does their role end there and leave it to the Senate or will they also make recommendations? Who will pursue those recommendations so that the people of Murang’a can know where they stand regarding the budgets, finances and wealth in Murang’a? These are important questions that need to be answered. Tonight, they have not been answered. The Committee has not even attempted to answer those questions. The problem I had and that is why I thought it is imperative that I speak about those issues because if I keep quiet here in the Senate, I cannot go to a public function and discuss them. I talk about them because devolution is important and I believe in it. I talk about them because I know that there is a solution for this country and that lies in devolution. Mr. Speaker, Sir, when the Committee finds, like it has found in more than 10 occasions in this report, that an unlawful act was committed, and nobody asked them, under Article 181, Section 33 of the County Governments Act and our Standing Orders No.68; when they make a finding of an unlawful act, are they bound by that statement then let the Senate deal with threshold or is that it? This is because it cannot be in vain that those statutes, including the Constitution are there. My request to you is that you must pronounce yourself as our Speaker. You must tell us whether this matter is over---"
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